I don’t like conducting celebrity interviews — they’re usually strictly regulated, 10-minute affairs choreographed by a publicist around the celebrity’s upcoming visit to YourTown USA. Everyone - reporter included - approaches the event with his or her own agenda. Nothing is ever revealed.
So it was with some trepidation that I approached filmmaker John Sayles following a panel discussion on Movies that Matter” at the festival on Sunday. I knew full well Sayles wasn’t a celebrity in the usual, People Magazine sense of the word. But he’s a mighty figure — a hero, really — for anyone who’s watched him do battle with Hollywood over the past three decades, creating memorable films despite fearsome odds. (If I have to list any of his film ahievements, you’ve probably arrived at this blogsite by mistake.)
So there he was on Sunday, standing on the edge of the Utopia Studios parking lot, commiserating with a young actress from Albany named Rose Thomas about the vagaries of her profession, which he shares. I butted on the conversation, eager despite my misgivings to make contact with one of the industry’s true — dare I say it? — mavericks.
Sayles finances his films by moonlighting as a Hollywood screenwriter or script doctor, a process he finds distastful but lucrative.
Indeed, I had to tell him some of his mainstream scripts for b-movies classics like “Pirhana” and “Alligator,” were among my favorite movies from the ’80s.
“I can’t really complain, it’s better than working for a living,” he said.
Though passionate about what he believes, Sayles never seems to get worked up about those passions. He’s not a table thumper, nor a sentimentalist. He seems unflappable, keeping a skeptic’s eye on everything that passes before it.
During the panel discussion, for example, he perfectly described the mainstream media’s idea of “fair and balanced” reporting:
“Their idea is that if you have someone speak the truth for 15 minutes, you have to then find someone who’ll speak lies for another 15 minutes.”
The offender he cited wasn’t the usual suspect, Fox News, but the sainted NPR.
He said he’s working on a novel, something he said he does whenever there’s a Hollywood writer’s strike. The novel is set in the late 1890s and early 1900s, years during which the US started the Spanish-America War and interceded in the Phillipines. These were wars that were advocated not by the usual war-mongering elite, he said, but by young men who were eager for a war of their own — “They’d gotten tired of hearing granndad talk about his days in the Civil War.”
He smiled at a startling bit of history he’d come across:
“There was a group called ‘The Anti-Imperialist League,’ whose best-known members were Mark Twain and Andrew Carnegie.” He smiled at the bizarre incongruity. “They were opposed for very different reasons, of course.”
The last I saw him, Sayles was wandering the studio’s parking lot, waiting for a friend. I told I’d decided to skip a festival viewing of his “Secret of Roan Inish,” in favor of having talked to him. I told him I’d enjoyed the movie and that the place where it was set, Ireland’s County Donegal, was among the most beautiful places I’d ever visited.
“Sort of like being at the edge of the world,” he said, smiling fondly at the memory
I agreed awkwardly said goodbye, feeling frustrated at the imbalance that’s inherent in such encounters, knowing I’d be walking away with more stories to tell, more warm memories than I’d been able to provide for him.
I figured the least I could do was share some of those stories and my impression of a good man who makes good movies.
jhorrigan@th-record.com